I am a handgun hunter who lives in Wyoming and hunts the Beartooth. Flat shooting gun with a lifetime warranty. A brown bears a Swiss mil-spec mugger, with built-in armor all over, especially around the brain. No thanks. RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. NEDERLAND A mountain lion killed after it attacked two dogs in a neighborhood near Nederland on Dec. 27 had no dog remains in its gut when it died, according to a Colorado Parks and Wildlife necropsy report. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The rabid coons were like a drunk, or drugged as they did not acknowledge being shotAmmo used.45 corbon 185 gr hp + p. 9 mm Federal hydroshok 124gr. What we can do is provide a framework to understand what average conditions might look like, and whether those are reasonably viable for a shot from the average shooter to harvest a cougar or mountain lion in the fewest number of shots possible, i.e., ethically. 3. Yes it is a bit heavy, but as said earlier.with a charging bear 8.5lbs of 458 SOCOM feels like a down pillow . elk All good options. Answer (1 of 2): Plenty of them. Its very light and handy to carry. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. They always seem to show up. Of the pistols that you listed carry the one you shoot best. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. We were given dominance over the animals, and we all got here at the same time. Some dogs work together well enough to make a cat figure it's best to run but rarely will a pack of dogs be able to kill a cougar. rather hungry bears stalking, attacking, and then attempting to eat human beings. The compilation lists 61 mountain lion attacks that resulted in injuries in the 16 and a half years, and at least 31 cases where attacks were thwarted by aggressive action. C. After a Loss Depredation Permit Process. Good stuff. In a close encounter this bear would have had enough time to kill me with no problem. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . We dont know what caliber, make or model the handgun was. Planning to go, I figured that I didnt have the right gun for a possible bear encounter. tell me want have you really killed lately. Dick Casulls brainchild improves the ballistics of the .45 Colt even in modern handguns and provides an entirely different performance level for those who can handle it. I mostly use single action pistols in 44 Mag, 45 colt, 454 casull, and a Bowen 475 Linebaugh that is my favorite. In an ambush situation, if you havent been paying attention, you wont have much time to reactMost of the people I know use the Ruger Alaskan pistols in 44mag minimum, next in popularity is the 454 Ruger Alaskan. I find it odd that people who trust autoloading pistols for protection against instantaneous violent attack by humans do not trust them for bears? Understanding that a grizz is top oh the list for a bad and aggressive attitude, a grizz cant kill you more then any other bear could. The cowboy loads are mild and fun to shoot and loaded with 300 plus grain hot loads it is very similar to a 44 mag. I would rather lug a 12 gauge or Marlin guide gun in 45/70 for bear protection. May 12, 2018. coastal on the Alaska peninsula quartering away with a .338 Win mag. I live in Alaska. Its a simple concept. The Inuit hunters would wait at a breathing hole in the ice. Maybe a man purse could hold 2 #s of C4? Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. When confronted by a threat.. you need to tick off a very short, well reasoned and practiced list. Made me wonder Dont these manufacturers know that hard cast is more effective? Perhaps they were just given that name to sound scary, but are really made for 2 legged predators? Before any bear country hunt I practice with it a lot. The mountain lion known as P-56 was killed January 27, 2020. Most of the time if all you are trying to do is keep the bears from attacking you, wear bells on your clothing as the old timers did. I am from Houston, TX. That is your choice. Cork Grahams rig. white-tailed deer More is always better and the bullet is the key. Its a gun I have confidence in when A doe once got a hoof caught in the top of a cyclone fence, near our property. 44 mag is a minimum and it would have to be a DA version. Hard cast is king. Absolute .357 Mag in a revolver for me is a minimum. Mountain lion facts. Mountain lions are very dangerous animals that are capable of killing creatures larger than themselves. It was the first handgun I ever purchased, and I put a considerable amount of thought into it. Mountain lions have been terrorizing livestock in Lake County over the past weeks, and this was not the first instance to be reported to authorities. Moutain Lions arent bear-zombie-meat-tanks. By Anders Anglesey On 11/3/21 at 11:39 AM EDT. A moose attacked me on my property when I first moved here, but it was because I was trying to get close enough for a good picture really DUMB! Of course you can imagine the hysterical reactions that suggestion creates.. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down. A large-bore firearm, with tons of practice in real-world scenarios, and to hell with insane local laws that prohibit mags > 15 rounds. The BFR 45-70 was not mentioned. It seems to be a matter of carrying largest caliber you can for the situation, with the proviso that you be able to deliver sufficient rounds on target. Just aim above the front tire, through the fender taking out the engine block. Most rangers will tell you a $50. 38 special will kill you just as dead as a . Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. bear which turned on him. I dont shoot them well enough, fast enough to satisfy me, 2. you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? Its been years since Ive regularly shot revolvers. Certain poisons meant to kill rodents, called anti-coagulant rodenticides, end up in the tissues of mountain lions. I am also, by trade, a Professional Land Surveyor, so my work hours are often spent in the remote wilderness areas. After I put it down with my .357 magnum, we found both 9mm rounds stuck in the skull. In that vein, and considering the real vs. imaginary threat posed by bears, a familiar 9mm loaded with non-expanding bullets is a lot better than a heavy .44 or .500 you left at home or are not completely proficient with. From one Phil to another, sage advice. Outdoors. Hard cast lead or perhaps some modern all brass penetrators would probably be better. I would recomend holding off until the bear is so close that he would be hard to miss and then not shooting any higher than nostril level. The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. The short barrel clears the holster fast and the Ruger frame is tougher than the S&W. Now, the black bear is generally speaking a rather docile creature, and most of the time it will make every attempt to run away from man. Good responses. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. Good luck It is not as if that information is widely out there ..This is part of a Strategy. Last I heard the Judge and Governor are chambered in .45 Colt and shoot the exact same rounds as your Redhawk does. Look it up. be utilized for small game hunting: rabbit, squirrel, and grouse. Underwood now has a 230grain all copper extreme hunter load at 1700fps. Sep 25, 2007. If the Hellsing 454 Casull is ever made (semi- auto), I want one. Worse is the comment on using a .38 Spl in bear country is better then no gun: BS, if your not prepared, dont go! It will drive a 300-grain bullet to over 1,600 fps. Lions are very powerful and usually kill large animals, such as deer and elk. But these loads would likely destroy an old Peacemaker, or other similar guns. Automatic option for black bear other than a10mm that youll never carry any other time. 255gr. Well there is some in one instance provided no less by the original fellow who created sells Bear Spray Now you find a lot of mumbo jumbo to suggest bear spray is no less effective that a firearms.. then the predictable firearms in parks concerns.. Firearms safety To sum up when you do read the common information .. 10 mm, the old lady behind me at checkout at Cabelas asked me why I was buying so much ammo. so why risk it. Next post: AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, Previous post: Waterfowl Artillery: CZ Swamp Magnum, Your email address will not be published. Penetration and shot placement are king. A .38 snubby? So, perhaps .45 colt is NOT the best choice for a bear. If you get to take a shot while standing, you should be making an effort to evade an attack while at the ready. A revolver is a one threat gun so unless you are Jerry Miculek you will run out of ammo with a revolver. With the exception of Mr. Shoemaker who has more experience than I will ever even hope to have bigger seems to be better. Lets hope that we can all avoid the threat of mauling, but if youre unfortunate enough to have it happen to you, be prepared. Sheep and goats are the most commonly killed domestic livestock, but mountain lions also kill cattle, However, I dont think that a short barrel revolver will produce such a velocity. I purchased the gun from the nephew of an Alaskan Guide who had to kill several large browns with this same revolver. Shoot, shovel, and shut up. It was there all night and broke its leg, trying to get free. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . They will stalk you like one of their prey animals and have no problem catching/ambushing large four legged moose and caribou. A Utah friend of mine called to ask about using a .38 Special with a 4" barrel as a trail gun and a defensive gun in the mountains of his home state. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. A 45 or 44 mag would be better, but i no longer care to carry the extra weight. Its not the bear in the fight, its the fight in the bear. He saved them both, barely, with his .338 rifle. A Utah friend of mine called to ask about using a .38 Special with a 4" barrel as a trail gun and a defensive gun in the mountains of his home state. And yet if you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for coyotes and small mountain lions, you are seriously underpowered for the big beasts in the woods. He told the cameraman Ive killed bears with this gun. His cousin, the brown bear, is an entirely different story; when a brown bear means business you need to stop the threat and stop it fast, by any means necessary. Mr. Shoemakers observations about irrational fear, opinions based on nonexperience or shilling, and the need for multiple hits in a hurry are the most astute and real world in this series. I can shoot 100rds of 480 in a day, that equals two loads of .44 mag or one shot of casull and none of the 500. Ruger alaskan, or Taurus Raging Bull in 5 or 6.5 ported, .480 ruger with 400g hardcast pushing 1100fps or more. James A. I have been involved in stopping several black bears intent on doing us damage and have stood two brown bear charges without shooting; although in one of them I probably should have pulled the trigger. Two young men from SoCal (where else?) The group was less than four inches and the ammo was full-power Winchester factory loads so it was full recoil. Government paid hunters were also paid to do the same. Its also probably a one or two shot deal, so firepower is irrelevant. Again, his Smith and Wesson Model 66 My buddy Marty Groppi who enjoys the famous trout streams of Upstate New York carries a Smith & Wesson Model 29 in the classic .44 Magnum, a combination that will most definitely save your bacon. The lion had killed the livestock but had not eaten them, The Mercury News reported. I like the S&W 460 as well. I would wantShortFast out of the holster.and powerful. Carrying a .38 snubbie in bear country is roughly akin to wearing a sandwich board that reads FREE LUNCH! It is same size as glock 21 (45 acp) so you can practice with the 45 for a lot cheaper. According to CPW, Colorado is home to between 3,000 and 7,000 mountain lions. You might not have the accuracy from the first two mentioned as you would the latter, but at the close range that a bear attack would occur I think that would be a moot point. A study done by US Fish and Wildlife produced the following results. Dogs and coyotes have one indent at the bottom of their pads. get of his ass and go out in the woods with his 38. At the same time, we're trying to be as supportive and helpful to property owners as possible.". thanx again. His dad stopped a charging brown with a .500 S&W pistol a few years ago. 39% were found to . Wolves are more of a threat. and when was the last time you saw a wolves, let alone a bear.?????? Feature Articles, load of No. It doesnt kick as much as my .44 Rem Mag in a JP Sauer six-shooter that I used to carry on remote gold mining operations, and in a M&P Shield and Glock 21, it also serves as my concealed carry. Fifty-four mountain lions in Alberta were tracked with GPS collars during a three-year study of . National Park Service, via AP, FILE. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. is probably better than nothing but foolhardy in my opinion. I was helping a friend butcher a hog he had raised. You could get pretty close to a semi-auto .454 Casull if you had a .440 Cor-Bon Desert Eagle. I almost needed a new clean pair of drawers. I have three loads that I shot, 200 gr. Natural enemies include other large predators such as bears, lions, and wolves. Bullets dont tend to divert in the wind at the necessary defensive distances. No browns in this neck of the woods so no need for the really big bore guns. @1,3000+ FPS, a 255 gr. 50 round box should last a lifetime. Also, my pre-1982 Do you have a question about mountain lions? If you carry anything less than a S&W 500 Magnum 4 inch for self protection in this state while in the outdoors you are playing with fire. Then you could shoot them from a distance and up close and personal, and I dont care if it is heavy, power is knowing your prepared ! Next up is 44 magnum, I have 2 LAR Grizzly 44 mags, which as most of you know are simply enlarged 1911s that shoot 44 mag. The bear biologist was tracking the animals when I stepped out of the woods and she told me how close we were to the bear. The Blackhawk is tough as nails, and while it may not have the prestige of a Colt Single Action Army, it is utterly dependable. As an outdoorsman, I enjoy being afield in all sorts of capacities. They are not a pleasant round to shoot but manageable for me, I have been shooting the 44mag pistol for almost 50 years and have lived in Interior Alaska for 38 years now. The 4-3-1 rule is a good rule of thumb, however, I agree with the comments about a 10mm. Ivy. Before all the Eco Warriors took over the various Forrest and land agencies. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. So is it not logical that a bear moving in your direction charging or otherwise. I will take it to heart and now that Ive learned the 4 3 1 rule Ill not forget it, and not fail to abide by it while in bear country, and quite probably every time Im hunting. Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! Federal, My choice is the 500 S&W. Ive literally seen .38 spl ricochet of the skulls of hogs, later being found somewhere between the hide and muscle upon skinning. I used them for too many years to be so. My mountain weapon is a 458 SOCOM, semi-auto, from a 8in barrel, eotech halo-graphic, green laser and 1000 lumen light, with a 300gr lead tip hollow point. Please reply. That said, here are my picks. The Marine carried an AR15/M4 .223 REM/5.56MM. And if he could run too fast, any caliber will work for knee caps!!!! She had gone out to get water and as she left she picked up her grandfathers .22 because up there you just never leave the cabin without a gun. Mountain lion attacks on humans, however, are rare in Colorado, with Colorado Parks and Wildlife counting fewer than 20 over the past 30 years. I dont plan to go out in the woods or scrubs any more but the S&W 629 with a 8 & 3/8 barrel Ive owned for 25 years will serve me well against black bears or hogzillas here in sunny Florida should the need arise. Carry the biggest gun you can for bears or charging moose. However, two of those incidents resulted in fatalities. Brown bear commonsense options: One lion can consume up to 20 or 30 pounds of meat in a single meal. I rather be over gun then under gun. Radically Invasive Projectile G2 ammo works! Who knows? Adult weight: Males range from 116-160 pounds and females, 75-110 pounds 10 mm. They are not fun to shoot, not fun to carry. My other handgun, my day-to-day gun, is a well-worn Smith & Wesson Model 36, in .38 Special. Recoil is managable and porting helps, not like 454 casull or 460 mag, no, let me guess 500 s&w is the only option, the first pistol to come with wheels! Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. Methinks your anti-Judge/Governor bias is showing. FL). In this case, fortunately, the uncle had time to retrieve the handgun from a vehicle. For me, Id say whatever you have at the time is better than nothing. What part of the state? I have been carrying my 1911 or my Taurus PT-92 for years and know what each round can do as a former US Army medic. People living in neighborhoods around Nederland wonder why Colorado Parks and Wildlife can't do more to stop attacks on their pets. Equipped with piano wire springs, the wisely designed transfer bar and adjustable sights, I am very confident with this pistol in hand. Bears cannot see as well as they can hear and smell. Lesson learned never keep food for bears in your camp site. May 23, 2022 / by / in . I have a buddy who guided a hunter with a .50 AE to a brown in the late eighties when it came out and it was a disaster. I hope you dont take anybody with you in these fantasy hikes with your hair spray. I prefer to carry a .460 Roland built on .45 Colt ACP 1911 chassis. Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. The 357-magnum case is just a bigger capacity shell able to provide much better performance. A friend who guided in Alaska and the northwest, that experienced a number of charges over the years, told me that at 300 yds, a well placed 06 round would do the job, at 200 yds a 300 Win. Not like that should be a problem anyways. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! Your email address will not be published. There is a term for that. Yes I admit, Im a revolver person. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. Plenty of good options in DA revolvers tried and true .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, etc. 200gr LRN out of my G29 or EAA Elite Match. Since Proposition . Any bear is a big, tough critter and to stop them you will need to penetrate and break stuff like big bones or skulls. having confidence in your weapon. I can hit an outboard engine at 100 yards. wild boars Commander. @ 1,100+ FPS!! Its available right now, only in 9 mm, .40 S & W and When I head afield, I nearly always carry one form of sidearm or another, and while the truly dangerous encounters are definitely a rarity, I feel better knowing I can protect my loved ones and coworkers should the event unfold. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? A single action handgun is not a good choice as a defense weapon in any scenario. They only penetrated a 1/4 of an inch, while the .357 round went through the skull and ended up about nine inches deep in the neck. Why dont you go out in the woods and try out some of your hollowpoints . Traveling with several other people may also help discourage a bear attacking as they usually want the least confrontation unless it is a mother bear protecting her cubs. Anyhow, nice article and just consider the glock 10 mm if you are comfortable with a semi-auto tyoe pistol. vintage Smith and Wesson Model 66 is a classic beautiful handgun with pinned barrel, I agree, whatever you have at the moment, is the best choice. Those pesky day to day perils of life keep getting in the way. Do you have an animal or nature story to share with Newsweek? Even if the game warden had survived, he The Mountain Lion will return to feed on the prey for up to 10 days. In Africa the wholesale slaughter of wild game was done to make room for agriculture and the safety of the farmers many of whom blasted off their feet the entire big game population for miles around. She ran out of there at Mach 3, with her blue hair on fire. I carry my Ruger SP101 357 on me always, and when camping, I have my 45-70 close by. . What I really love I the light weight of the Blackhawk, its great in a shoulder rig. The examination of the animal, believed to be about 3 years old, suggests it was an opportunistic predator and not starving because deer, its natural prey, had been over-hunted, as . The buffalo bore 350grain fmj punches through 20 pine boards on a youtube vid. bird watching, hiking, backpacking, and enjoying nature. Under normal circumstances, the lion would have returned to eat the prey. I own several Casulls, but my favorite handgun is a 5-inch, custom Freedom Arms Model 83 that Ken Kelly tricked out for me. With a 3-inch barrel and a six-shot cylinder combining for a weight of just 25 ounces, this gun was made to be both carried and shot. In the middle of our camps we kept a ready shotgun on a small folding table so if a quick exit from the tents was called for, everyone at least know where that one was. They were highly experienced survivalists. Next Yes. All shots were heart lung ,,,edit,, All shots were attempted heart lung. You can love a single action revolver but you wont find an Alaskan guide or hunter carrying one, or a semi-auto pistol without a 45-70 or 338WinMag at the ready. Now before we take a look at particular models and calibers, lets get one basic premise out of the way: when the excrement hits the oscillator, any gun is better than no gun. I am 80 years old remember my dad had a meat market . The most significant differences between a jaguar and a mountain lion are their size, speed, and bite force. closer than 35 feet heading in your direction should be engaged? Im paraphrasing a bit here, but I once read an article by Bill Jordan about a new Weatherby rifle he was about to take on safari to Africa. In fact, a shot from a .357 caliber revolver or a shotgun at close range is more likely to kill a mountain lion than an accidental discharge . (https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf) DRT. Spent half my working career in Alaska, hunted, fished, hiked. If not, always nice to have to many guns.. After wearing out a few S&W frames in 44mag, I switched to the short barreled Ruger Alaskan in 44mag. Rifle first if at all possible. You dont need a laboratory test to confirm that it was behaving strangely. You will only have only one chance to prove fluffy wont kill you. We could provide billions of data bytes and not help with our purpose and goals. If I cant do it with that then I guess I was destined to lose that fight. For more information about Hornady ammunition, click here. Ive ditch my .460 Rowland. Though perhaps semi-obsolete, if not obsolete for law enforcement He lives every day with brown bears and has guided to dozens if not hundreds of them. 7.62 mm (.32 cal) out of a necked-down 9mm case. 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